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John's quick summary pretty much hits every nerve in the book for me: It's a Nice Guy fantasy movie, fundamentally all about what the Nice Guys would like to do to those horrible castrating bitches who don't appreciate how wonderful they are.

He's linked to reviews. I won't.

I knew it was bad. Hearing it put that way specifically, on the other hand, is evoking that "my skin wants to crawl off my body now" feeling, and I hate getting that in real life.

I'm going to finish rereading "The Screwfly Solution". That, at least, doesn't invite you to cheer along with rape and torture.

And god help us when that quality is something that needs to be specified, anyway.

Current Mood: I don't mind being female. I just hate how other people see it.

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Date: 2007-07-17 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com
It first came to our attention by its basement rating on rottentomatoes; we will not be going to see it.

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Date: 2007-07-17 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
I first heard about it Friday evening, when we were walking around Saskatoon. It was showing at a movie theatre. I blinked at it; John gave me a quick summary of the poster campaign.

We went to another theatre, which was showing Live Free or Die Hard.

Yippee-ki-yay, m----f----.

Date: 2007-07-17 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Superheroes without spandex. :) I was watching the near-climactic fight between McClane and the Tough Bad Guy Who'd Survived That Long and I was thinking "Huh. Captain America versus Deadpool."

It's unabashedly over-the-top in terms of the action--albeit in a way that had people cheering and laughing rather than groaning and laughing--and McClane occasionally comes across as "cartoony shallow" rather than "reserved but determined", but it was fun. It really was.

(Downside: the Chief Bad Guy was played by Timothy Olyphant. After John pointed it out to me, I kept seeing Seth Bullock every time he spoke. Also, the thirty seconds of token relationship between Chief Bad Guy and Minion seemed to come out of nowhere. As movies go, these are downsides I can live with.)

Re: Yippee-ki-yay, m----f----.

Date: 2007-07-17 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com
Thanks for the capsule review; sounds like a good way to spend an evening sometime!

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Date: 2007-07-17 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolston.livejournal.com
The horrific part is the audience reaction. I wonder if people who have seen the movie think about their reaction after they have left the building?

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Date: 2007-07-17 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
*has horrible suspicion that I'm thinking about it enough for them*

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Date: 2007-07-17 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com
*is reminded of those psych experiments in which it was shown what people can be led to do, and how easily*

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Date: 2007-07-17 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Gretchen Brantt gives me some small hope.

(In the Stanley-Milgram experiment, she stopped. Before the responses had broken down into incoherent screaming, even.)

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Date: 2007-07-18 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com
This (http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/zimbardo07/zimbardo07_index.html) is good reading, and may help put your head in a better place.

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Date: 2007-07-18 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurkerwithout.livejournal.com
On a positive note, from what I understand, the movie is totally tanking at the box office. Which gives me hope that the wretchedness that is the Torture Porn sub-genre of Horror may be dying for a good while...

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Date: 2007-07-18 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Heh. One article I saw referred to undercutting Captivity's profits as Harry Potter's greatest trick yet.

It'd be nice, and I've got my fingers crossed, but I wish I could be surer. I don't like the TP sub-genre, but Captivity to TP sounds like Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill to road movies--a particularly terrible example, that might not reflect on the rest of the sub-genre, though I expect there *will* be a backlash.
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